Proof that the World Mission Society Church of God is False

I wrote previously asking World Mission Society Church of God members to share objective proof that their faith is true.  So far, no one has had any objective proof to offer.

Today, I'm turning the idea around to disproof.  What objective information do we have that proves the WMSCOG to be false?

I want to emphasize the word objective.  We're looking for provable facts here, not feelings, opinions and matters of interpretation.  (Click here for an example of why we can't just go by feelings.)

I love analogies.  It really helps me to understand something if I can see how it relates to or corresponds with something else.  Here's an analogy for you...

A popular movie these days at my house is Disney's "Tangled," the story of Rapunzel.  What I really find interesting as I watch it is the relationship between Rapunzel and Mother Gothel.  It follows so closely with the BITE model of destructive mind control.  As viewers, we can see how Mother Gothel manipulates Rapunzel in the relationship, but Rapunzel just sees it as love and care from her 'mother.'

In reality, Mother Gothel is not her mother at all and is using her for selfish means.  There's one moment, closer to the end of the movie, when Rapunzel finally realizes the truth.  One clue leads to everything unraveling.  What is that one clue?  Rapunzel and the lost princess share the same birthday.  Rapunzel combines that clue with everything else she saw when she escaped isolation (the symbol of the kingdom, the picture of the little princess), and the truth is revealed!

Now back to the WMSCOG.  If none of the other common reasons convince you, then please follow these clues, provable facts, to show you where the so-called 'truth' of the WMSCOG starts unraveling.  Thankfully there are many clues to find, not just one, and I'll list some for you here.

These are all matters of fact and logic and cannot be debated.  (1+1 = 2; can you debate that it doesn't?)  Well, if you'd like to try to debate these facts, go ahead, and I look forward to hearing from you about it.

The WMSCOG teaches that God lies

What do you call a 'God' who acts contrary to the nature of God?  A false god.  (Click here for more information.)

Isaac -- The WMSCOG teaches that Abraham's son Isaac was God in the flesh.  However, Isaac lied (Genesis 26).  God does NOT lie (Titus 1:2).

Ahnsahnghong's own book -- In the book "Problems with New Jerusalem, the Bride, and Women's Veils," Ahnsahnghong said that there was NO 'Mother God' and and specifically argued against the same verses the WMSCOG used today to try to prove there is.  The WMSCOG's position is that Ahnsahnghong wrote the book to prevent his followers from believing in the wrong woman as 'Mother God,' and then withdrew the book so he could reveal the right woman.  There are only two conclusions I can draw from this, neither of which is good for the WMSCOG.  Either:

Ahnsahnghong told the truth in his book, and there is no 'Mother God' (which disproves the WMSCOG) or...
Ahnsahnghong lied in his book, which proves he cannot be God (which also disproves the WMSCOG).

The WMSCOG uses false historical facts

I have been told that these are not actually false facts, but simplifications to avoid lengthy discussions of complicated history.  I understand the need to simplify, but even simplifications can (and should) be accurate.  Build doctrine on false simplifications, and you end up with false doctrine.

The 10 Kingdoms -- As part of the Pope-is-Antichrist doctrine, the WMSCOG teaches that the Roman Empire broke up into 10 countries, 3 of which were destroyed by the Catholic Church by 538.  The supposed 10 kingdoms are not accurate, 5 (not 3) were destroyed, and the kingdoms' religious faith was not a consistent factor.  (Click here and here for more information.)

The year 538 -- Again as part of the Pope-is-Antichrist doctrine, the WMSCOG teaches that the last of the three kingdoms to fall was the Ostrogoths, destroyed in AD 538, which began the prophesied 1260 years of the 'Dark Ages.'  However, the Ostrogoths were destroyed must later than 538, and there is no significance of the year 538 in Papal history either.  (Click here and here for more information.)

The WMSCOG has kept the Feasts incorrectly 
(even according to their own regulations!)

This is an obvious clue for me!  If you are uncertain or confused about it, please click on the link provided for more details.

The Feasts of the seventh month -- According to the WMSCOG, keeping the Feasts of God properly is absolutely essential to your salvation.  The Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Feast of Tabernacles must take place on the specified days in the seventh month of the 'sacred calendar.'

But if you examine what has actually been done at the WMSCOG, you'll find that in 2005, 2008, and 2010, the seventh month Feasts were kept in the eighth month.  (Click here for the detailed chart.)  The only word I can think of to describe that is incompetence, and that is definitely not a word to describe God (or a church that claims to be lead by a God-in-the-flesh).

If you are a WMSCOG member, I pray that you will follow these clues to find true freedom in the real Jesus Christ.

The Power of God -- Responding to WMSCOG comments

I'm here today to address  a couple more of the comments from World Mission Society Church of God member(s) that have come through in the last several days.  Again, I'll copy the comments exactly as they were written, without adding, removing, or editing anything

On July 28 at 5:55 am, Anonymous posted on "Mother God -- Responding to WMSCOG comments" --

You quoted: ROM 6:9 - Christ cannot die again. Ahnsahnghong is dead.
Who is Christ to you? Isn't He God Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth? In the first place, does God need the flesh to wear? What is the flesh to God. God has no limitations. He can do whatever God wants to do. The flesh, he used in the body of Jesus Christ God does not need. But He used it during His 1st Coming because God CAN. It does not mean that He cannot use any other flesh, it is because GOD CAN!I believe you do not understand the POWER of GOD> 

 On July 29 at 6:34 pm, Anonymous posted on "The name of Jesus," in response to bigcedbeatz's comment --

Bigcedbiatz, You are foolish because of your little faith. Does God needs the flesh? NO!! When God made the heavens and the earth, He was in Spirit. He needs no flesh at all. But it does not mean that he will not use the flesh for his purpose. Do you know why? It is because God CAN! If God plans it, He will do it, and He CAN!!The flesh He used in the body of Jesus Christ is only a flesh. He used it for His purpose and left it. Will God forever use that same flesh again? God will do whatever He plans to do and nobody can stop God in fulfilling HIS plan! If He wants to reveal himself again in the flesh as an American, Russian, African, HE can do it because HE CAN!!!! Why do you question the power of GOD????? Foolish Christian!! 

Your basic point seems to be that it is within God's power to appear (be born) in the flesh again if He wanted to, and in any physical appearance.  You think I do not understand or believe in the power of God to do such a thing.

Yes, I do believe in the great power of God.  I believe He is able to do things that I can't even imagine.  But there are somethings that God will NOT do -- He will not do anything that is contrary to His character, His nature.  He will not lie.  He will not be unjust.  He will not contradict Himself.  (Here is a more detailed summary of what God cannot do.)

God said that He would not die again (Romans 6:9).  God said, multiple times, that there is only one God (see those verses here, here, and here.)  Did God lie when He said those things?

The WMSCOG teaches that Isaac was also God in the flesh.  Yet Isaac lied (Genesis 26), and Isaac was deceived (Genesis 27).

The Bible says God will not lie (Titus 1:2), and that He cannot be deceived by anyone (Hebrews 4:13).  The WMSCOG teaches that God lies and can be deceived.

Are you saying that God is so "powerful" that He can act contrary to His nature?

What do you call a "God" who acts contrary to God's unchanging nature?  A false god!

Evidence for your faith -- A question for WMSCOG members

I don't believe in a completely blind faith.  I know that some people are perfectly happy believing in their religious faith without knowing anything substantial as evidence, and ignoring anything that has a risk of disproving their faith.  That is not in my personality, though.

I have talked with atheists, agnostics, and others who question my faith in Christianity.  Some have said, "How can you believe in Jesus and the Bible when there are inconsistencies, contradictions, and other problems?"

I understand this question.  And so I can also understand the reluctance of World Mission Society Church of God members (and people of other religions) to abandon their faith when they are confronted with problems.

Several things happen when I am confronted with those problems, and I am sure there is a similarity between me and my sister (and other WMSCOG members).  I see that:

1. Some of those 'contradictions' others see really do have logical explanations for them if you just look a little farther.
2. People do sometimes fail to act in a 'Christian' manner, but that is because we are flawed human beings.  We need to look at the teaching of the faith more than the actions of the adherents.
3. Some of those other philosophical problems really do have answers if you will just consider another viewpoint.
4. For the cases that are left over, if there are no explanations or answers, I understand the objection, but it does not bother me enough to abandon my faith.  Why?  Because I trust God enough that He has an answer even if I can't see it.

I'd like to focus on point 4.  In order to trust your faith in God enough to overcome any apparent objections, there MUST be something at the root of it as evidence, proof to build your faith on.-- something solid, like the house built on the rock (Matthew 7:25).

When I am confronted with the toughest questions about what I believe, I have to go back to that root, that rock, and remember the immovable facts my faith is built on.

The evidence can't be something that's a matter of opinion or interpretation--those are not stable or provable.

It can't be something that is entirely within the belief system, because then you get into circular arguments which don't prove anything.  Basically that would be, "Why do you believe in the Bible?  Because it is God's word.  How do you know it is God's word?  Because it tells me so."

No, it needs to be something from the outside that is factually based.

Here are two of the key pieces of evidence of my faith in Jesus and Christianity:

• Support for the Resurrection is profound.  It is the only logical explanation (as strange as it may be) of the events occurring after the Resurrection and the changed lives of the disciples.
• There is an abundance of fulfilled prophecy in the Bible recorded in historical documents. 

Now the question for WMSCOG members... What do you consider evidence for your faith in Ahn Sahng Hong and Zahng Gil Jah and the doctrine of the WMSCOG?  When the WMSCOG tells you that you can't have a faith based on common sense, what evidence do you rely on to know you can trust them?

Remember, this evidence needs to be something outside the WMSCOG that is factual, verifiable.

For example, do not say your evidence is the prophecies that Ahn Sahng Hong fulfilled as the second coming Christ, because that is based on the WMSCOG's own interpretation of those prophecies.

Ok, responses please. :)

Big Calendar Mistake!

Leviticus 23:23-25

Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation. You shall do no customary work on it; and you shall offer an offering made by fire to the LORD.’”

This is the Feast of Trumpets, which Rabbinic Jews today celebrate as Rosh Hashanah, and which also marks the New Year for their civil calendar. (Karaite Jews call the same holiday Yom Teruah.)

The Lord declares that it is to be held on the first day of the seventh month. The Feast of Trumpets is the first of three Holy Days/Feasts in the seventh month. The others are the Day of Atonement and the Feast of Tabernacles.

When I asked my sister if she was going to be busy with a Feast this week (knowing that Jews were beginning their Rosh Hashanah celebrations the evening of Sept. 8), she was surprised and said no, and wasn't even sure what Rosh Hashanah was. She said that the next Feast she will celebrate will be the Feast of Trumpets on Oct. 8. Since Rosh Hashanah is actually the day for the Feast of Trumpets, I wondered--why a whole month different?! (Especially since she celebrated Passover on the same day as the Hebrew calendar this year.)

In examining this particular problem with the World Mission Society Church of God, I’m not going to compare the Rabbinic and Karaite calendars (which the WMSCOG sometimes deviates from) to try to prove one “right”. I’m only going to compare the WMSCOG calendar with itself and the Bible.

What follows may seem like an insignificant point to some people, but it really shows how the WMSCOG cannot even keep straight their own rules and doctrine.

We know that the Hebrew calendar is luni-solar, which means that the months follow the lunar cycle, with a leap month added every so often to keep the holy days in their proper seasons. Each month starts with the new moon.
(By the way, because of the time difference around the globe, the new moon may occur up to one day off of GMT if you consider that the WMSCOG may go by new moons in Korea (which it does NOT seem to do consistently anyhow). But these problems are far greater than one day….)

Let’s look at this year 2010—
Passover is in the first month (Lev. 23:5)
The WMSCOG kept Passover on March 29.
So the new moon of March 15 marks the first month.
The new moon of April 14 begins the second month.
The new moon of May 13 begins the third month.
The new moon of June 12 begins the fourth month.
The new moon of July 11 begins the fifth month.
The new moon of August 9 begins the sixth month.
The new moon of September 8 begins the seventh month.
The new moon of October 7 begins the eighth month.

The WMSCOG has their Feast of Trumpets scheduled for Oct. 8, 2010.
They are always sticklers for keeping the Feasts at their correct date and time.
Why are they keeping this year’s Feast of Trumpets/Day of Atonement/Feast of Tabernacles in the eighth month instead of the seventh month?

I think their excuse will be something about that these dates are supposed to be in the autumn season, and Sept. 8 is not officially fall yet. But that doesn’t matter. Fall will have officially started before this series of Feasts is finished. And the Bible says that these dates must be in the seventh month.

A similar thing happened in 2005 and 2008:
For 2005, the WMSCOG held Passover on Mar. 24.
So the new moon of Mar. 10 started their first month.
It was followed by the new moons of Apr. 8 (second month), May 8 (third month), June 6 (fourth month), July 6 (fifth month), Aug. 4 (sixth month), Sept. 3 (seventh month), and Oct. 3 (eighth month).
The WMSCOG held their Feast of Trumpets on Oct. 3. (They called this the seventh month on their news report, but it is actually the eighth month counting from when they kept Passover.)

For 2008, the WMSCOG held Passover on Mar. 21.
So the new moon of Mar. 7 started their first month.
It was followed by the new moons of Apr. 5 (second month), May 5 (third month), June 3 (fourth month), July 2 (fifth month), Aug. 1 (sixth month), Aug. 30 (seventh month), and Sept. 29 (eighth month).
The WMSCOG held their Feast of Trumpets on Sept. 30. (They called this the seventh month too on their news report, but it is actually the eighth month counting from when they kept Passover.)

It's just another thing that makes it SO CLEAR to me that Mother Jerusalem is NOT God! She can’t even arrange her own church’s calendar to follow her own teachings.

If you want to see this for yourself, you can look at the South Korea church news reports on the main church website for previous Feast dates here: http://english.watv.org/news/list.asp?menu=I
And here’s a list of new moon dates: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001est.html

If you'd like to see this information in a chart form, click here.

The Proof--Remember This!

We can argue back and forth about whether the World Mission Society Church of God is God’s true church and our only salvation, or a church that brings destruction, preaches falsehood, and gives worship to an ordinary man and woman.

Fortunately, the WMSCOG has given us a way to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, whether it is the true church or not. It may take some time before it happens, but rest assured, something will happen one day and the truth will be known to all.

The position of the WMSCOG is that Mother Jerusalem (Zahng Gil-Jah) will not die. And those church members who celebrate the Passover will have the seal of God protecting them from harm, so they also will not die from the plagues and destruction that will come to the earth. Mother Jerusalem and her followers will all go straight to heaven alive, so says the WMSCOG.

I was told by a knowledgeable church member who was very certain of this, that if “Mother God” (Zahng Gil-Jah) dies it will show that it was a false church after all. My sister and other WMSCOG members have confirmed this, though of course they are certain it won’t happen that way.

So here is the proof (and I’m sure I’m not the only one who has brought this up):

In a matter of time, one of two things will happen…
1) Mother Jerusalem and all her church members will in some way disappear from the earth when they all go to heaven together – or –
2) Mother Jerusalem will die as all humans do, and her church will be left here without her.

If #1 happens, we will know it was the true church.
If #2 happens, we will know it was a false church.

If #1 happens, as our WMSCOG friends are certain it will, then they have nothing to worry about, and the rest of us will rely on the mercy of God.

If #2 happens, as the rest of us expect it will, I fervently pray that all the church followers will wake up and not take any excuses from the church leadership. It will have already proven itself to be false, so do NOT let your church leaders try to convince you otherwise with statements like these:
--She has gone ahead to prepare a place for you and will return to get those who remain faithful.
--She wanted to allow more time for more brothers and sisters to come to faith, but her earthly body couldn’t survive any longer.
--She has left (insert name here) to be in charge until she returns.
--She has introduced you to the “Heavenly Daughter”, or some other member of a god-family, who will continue her work. (If there is a trinity of the male god —father, son, and holy spirit— why not make up a trinity of the female god —mother, daughter, and who-knows-what.)

Also, beware of these tactics which may be used to cover up the death of “Mother” (Zahng Gil-Jah):
--She goes into “seclusion” and does not wish to see any visitors any more.
--She only seen by recorded message, not live.
--Or (heaven forbid!) she knows she is going to die and asks all her faithful followers to die with her (aka —drink the kool-aid together). She might tell everyone that they must shed their earthly bodies so they can get new ones in heaven —their souls will go to heaven alive, after all….

These are only a few of the things that could be said by the church leaders to try to recover from being exposed as a false church. I expect there is also a chance the church could splinter into groups that think the WMSCOG had things almost right and try to repair the damage, but the truth will remain—when “Mother’s” body dies, she will be exposed as a false prophet. Neither she nor her teachings, and neither Ahnshanghong nor his teachings (since he’s the one who pointed to her), are to be trusted.

So my message to my sister (and our other loved ones) is this:
If we cannot agree about the church, then let’s agree to disagree for now. BUT should Mother Jerusalem die, please remember that your family has always loved you. Please take the open door that God has given you and be set free from the enemy’s deception. Come back and be restored to your family who has missed you and loves you still.