(I have only removed the location from this original comment--no other words--but I have fixed any spelling errors to help those needing to use the online translator.)
January 19, 2012, 1:07 AM, Wendi said...
I am a mother in Canada. Nearly all my family attends the Church of God. There are so so many misrepresentations in this blog. I understand that in the freedom to speak freely people can say some very vile and hurtful things. Many evil things have been done in the name of Christianity. History teaches us this.Hello, Wendi. I'm glad you wrote. Yes, freedom of speech does include the freedom to speak harshly. I've seen rude language come from all sides. I myself have endured many horrible, insulting comments from WMSCOG members. That is too bad. We should all be respectful even if we disagree, and that's what I try to do.
About "misrepresentations"-- if you believe I have misrepresented scientific or historical facts, you should know that I do painstaking research for all my articles and document my sources so you can check these things for yourself.
If you believe I have misrepresented WMSCOG doctrine, you should know that what I write about has been explained to me through personal discussions with members and through official church documents. If you believe the WMSCOG teaches something different, then I'm left to wonder why they would be so inconsistent in their doctrine.
If you believe I have misrepresented the behavior of the members, you should know that I write about the personal experiences of myself and my friends and family. Perhaps your experience has been different. I have noticed that, in general, members are much nicer to people who agree with them than they are with those who disagree or ask serious questions.
It would be more helpful if you would please give specific examples of the misrepresentations you are talking about. I would be glad to clear them up or make corrections as needed.
This is a good church. But you need to hear more than a couple of lessons to fully make up your mind. Do you go to school and take one or two courses to become a doctor or teacher? No. If you truly want to know the truth, you must seek it - and the Church of God can give you those answers if you have an open heart and mind enough to give them a fair chance to do so.How many lessons would make for a "fair chance"?
No matter how much my friends or I have studied, we are continually told that we haven't studied enough, that if we only studied more then we would see.
What would you say to a Scientologist (for example), who kept telling you, "If you would only study more with us, it would make sense and you'd see we are teaching the truth"?
If something is false, no amount of studying can make it true.
My mind is open but not so open that my brains fall out (as the saying goes).
From the experiences of myself and my friends, the WMSCOG only wants you to stay close with your family if they do not object to their teachings. We've seen our family members distance themselves, sometimes speaking mean and hateful words to us who are only trying to help, and sometimes to the point of removing themselves from the family.We are not a cult. Cults try to take you away from your family. Our church WANTS you to stay in your family, and love them to show Gods love to them, but people always have their own agendas.
How are we supposed to believe that the church wants the members to stay in their family when we see our loved ones refuse to join us for even the most important family events of weddings and funerals? Or when we see a member threaten to divorce a questioning spouse, or a son/daughter stop communicating with their unbelieving parents?
I don't know whose agenda you are talking about, but if you'd really like me to believe that the WMSCOG does not break up families, then I will need to stop seeing and hearing bad examples like those I've mentioned, and start hearing (and seeing) more real life examples that what you say is true.
(Do you hear that, WMSCOG leaders? Why don't you encourage your members to restore and maintain good relationships with their families, and to thoughtfully answer their concerns instead of avoiding them?)
Don't you know that what is in your heart will eventually come out your mouth (or in this case through your fingers in print)? Pray for truth to God! But then have the grace to hear it without prejudging first. Truth will remain, lies will always come out. Wendi, [location removed]I hope you also will have the grace to read my articles here without prejudging first.
It's funny you mention "truth will remain, lies will come out."
The WMSCOG believes lying for a 'good' cause is ok. They call it a 'righteous lie.' The thing is, who decides which situations are ok for lies and which are not? Have you ever found anywhere in the Bible where Jesus said lying was acceptable?
Do you know, the WMSCOG taught that Ahnsahnghong and Zahng Gil-Jah did not have earthly spouses or natural children of their own. What do they say about that now?
You are correct. The truth will stand, and lies will eventually come out.
You seem like a sincerely nice person, Wendi. I pray that you will be able to see the truth and understand that my intentions here are good.
Thank you so much for sharing ur encounters with us. I was just approached by 2 of their members today by them starting off as " could you complete a survey on christianity ". I am happy to have found this site as it reassures me that this is a cult religion. God bless you, and many thanks!
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome. I praise God that this site has been a help to you.
ReplyDeleteA survey like that is a common way for this group to recruit new members. You might suspect that it's the WMSCOG if the survey asks about Christmas and the Sabbath. I'm curious if they shared with you the name of their church when they approached you with the survey.
Thank you for sharing about it!
your doing a great work of salvation, I pray that Jesus would give you wisdom and strength to continue your work and open people's eye. God will surely bless you ! =)
ReplyDeleteThank you, Vetha. I appreciate the encouragement.
ReplyDeleteI used to attend WMSCOG in Bogota NJ couple of years ago and I am still affected by their behavior. At that time the church was trying to transfer to ridgewood NJ in which now they reside. I can honestly say that the people involve that church destroyed my spirit.
ReplyDeleteHi! Two members of the Church of God came by my home. Two wks later I'm baptized as well as my children. What doesn't sit right by me... Is 2nd coming of Christ and the heavenly mother. Something about that and the constant God bless you's and overly friendly congregation strikes me as strange. Anywho, I would like to know if you have any pointed questions I should ask in the next bible study as well as any scripture that negates their beliefs. Thank you in advance! :)
ReplyDeleteHello, BoonesMom
DeleteI'm so glad you wrote. Yes, something is not right with the WMSCOG. It's good you have recognized that. I do have some questions for you, but I think it would depend on what you have already experienced and studied with them about. Please get in touch with me by email and we can talk more (knowhispeace@gmail.com). Hope to hear from you soon.