tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post8971813715739362805..comments2024-03-16T08:08:37.296-07:00Comments on Encountering the Cult of Ahnsahnghong: Leaving the World Mission Society Church of Godgennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-43704490007445274772018-03-26T18:53:14.136-07:002018-03-26T18:53:14.136-07:00"Unknown" posted a comment here March 26..."Unknown" posted a comment here March 26, 2018 at 9:55 AM, but it needs to be edited to remove names. Here it is...<br /><br />Hello, I am a ex-member of the wmscog in Singapore and I am proud to say that. I understand the position you are in as the two recruiters, [name] and [name] have already tried their best to convinced me a lot of times. (not trying to put them in the bad light BTW) I got easily distracted by this Christian farce, oh and just so you know, I am the only son of the family, of free thinkers and Buddhist. The point is, you need to learn how to use the ability to research and help rebuke your daughters beliefs. Here are some red flags, they prescribed to me that the world is going to end soon thank to the so called measurement of the doomsday clock, which is legitimate but wrong in a sense, the graph shows that doomsday was avoided 3 times, especially 1988, which was one of the years that the wmscog proclaimed to be judgement day. The two recruiters dismiss this as a prophecy, to which I will call it heresy, they used the second coming of christ and their god the mother interpretation to give a incomplete answer to why 1988 was part of the prophesy. They also dismissed the 2012 one as a made up story, but a missionary himself named Ron stated he was taught that 2012 was the end of the world, then to his juniors, his family. It was shocking. The recruiters also dismiss the fact that members of the church should pay 10% of their income to the church as a straight 'no'. This is incredibly dishonest, oh wait, there's more, Wmscog is recognised as a good organisation for volunteering thanks to the queen's award. This and other awards is used by recruiters to state and verify the integrity of the wmscog. It is Insane, they would use anything at their disposal to convince people to join the wmscog. As I have watched countless arguments between the wmscog and ex members of this organisations resulted in endless infernos of us or them situations of anger, fear and hatred. It became clear to me that there are things that you and your daughter should investigate. It has been 5 years after the OP's post. I hope that anyone who see this regardless of ex members, members or strangers of multiple religions. Please let each other know that there is still hope for this world. gennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-55888910784657463282018-02-21T23:39:00.279-08:002018-02-21T23:39:00.279-08:00AmenAmenAnak Malaysiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14735391029804246740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-66077067788814258292018-02-21T23:36:38.568-08:002018-02-21T23:36:38.568-08:00Please avoid them if you are not strong in your fa...Please avoid them if you are not strong in your faith and/or understanding of the scriptures. It is a cult misinterpreting the scriptures to suit their wrong beliefs. There are many hidden things they do not tell you at first, like there is a Mother God (a Korean woman that is still alive), their interpreted Holy Spirit's 'new name' is a Korean who had came and died) by claiming that they know the mysteries of God's revelation which will be revealed to you, eventually. What is there is hide in telling the Good News?! Good work is revealing the love of God towards others. Once you are saved and a believer and a follower of Jesus Christ, you need to do have fellowship with fellow believers to edify, encourage, love, comfort, help each other, etc. Let not good works be boastful of our own effort but always doing and giving glory to God. For they will know we are Christians by our love. You can avoid the uncertainty and confusion on Google: CARM Introduction to WMSCOG. Lord Jesus has finished the redemptive work by taking away our sins. He died on the cross for us when he said, IT IS FINISHED! He completed the work of the Father on the cross. There is much to study from the scriptures, ask for the Holy Spirit to lead and guide you. If you do not want to be mislead, it is best NOT to attend any WMSCOG bible study classes due to their wrong beliefs. You can try looking for BSF (Bible Study Fellowship) if there are any your area. This is a good bible study group following sound doctrines from the Bible, nothing more and nothing less. They have weekly bible study classes. Seek help and find out the truth. God Bless!Anak Malaysiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14735391029804246740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-18535413979283970362018-02-04T07:48:21.683-08:002018-02-04T07:48:21.683-08:00MY GOD. These Anti CHRIST are in INDIA too. They ...MY GOD. These Anti CHRIST are in INDIA too. They are coming to my house and teaching about totally different Christianity. My DAD told me that it's written in The BIBLE, anti christ will emerge at time of end. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15247332431628312926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-25787396727460525102018-01-27T11:48:05.884-08:002018-01-27T11:48:05.884-08:00We then go into the kitchen where there convenient...We then go into the kitchen where there conveniently is a whiteboard installed to the wall above the fireplace (in this townhome we met at). Prior to the study, he asked the 3 of us to pray as individuals, which is unusual for me in the sense that in groups, I'm used to someone such as a leader praying over the group. He shows me the bible version he’s using, NIV, and explains they aren’t Mormon or Christian Scientists, Scientologist, etc. He then writes out notes on the white board as we bounce around various passages in Galatians, John, Revelations, Genesis, etc. He makes the case for God the Father AND God the Mother. At this point, I'm feeling a little uncomfortable inside. Mostly I am asked to read the passages we are going through and then he re-reads them and explains the COG interpretation of these passages. Keep in mind…we aren’t doing this in context of where the verses are in the bible but in context of all these disparate verses put together. Bible Study buddy keeps saying things like ‘logically’ and ‘reason’ to hammer home points on God the Mother. The whole time it felt like he was trying to get me to believe that God the Mother is currently alive and well and we know who she is. At this point I was just waiting for him to go “And there she is!” and point to the nice girl who’s townhouse we were in lol. He attempted to lead me through ‘logical’ steps about fathers and mothers and children and tie these to passages we were studying. I did pose traditional counter-arguments to my limited ability, again, because of my limited bible knowledge. He had ready answers for each of them which made sense in his context, but not to me. I can see how people go for this….but I’ve studied too much body language, linguistics, and the art of manipulation to be easily swayed to another point of view when these tools are used on me. <br /><br />So the first bombshell they teach is that there is God the Mother and she is the one who gives us eternal life. He was trying to gauge me the whole time but I showed nothing but being a blank slate. Not too much skepticism, but not appearing to soak it up either. They invited me for another study this week which I agreed to. However, I went home and talked me sister and brother-in-law again, the most educated Christians I know and trust and they found the full name of the church, which let to my google search, which has since led me to this little blog. This is fascinating stuff and I just wanted to share my little story. I feel for those of you who have loved ones falling for a program like this. <br /><br />The two easiest critiques I have for this COG is that 1. There is no mention of God the Mother in the bible. These folks are searching for something that isn’t there. God and Jesus spoke sometimes in parable and imagery, etc, but he did not create puzzles for us to put together. 2. John 14:6 Jesusanswered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-72152716276154269252018-01-27T11:47:52.211-08:002018-01-27T11:47:52.211-08:00Brace yourselves, this is long.
I was approached...Brace yourselves, this is long. <br /><br />I was approached by a man sitting near me at a Barnes and Noble asking about my faith late 2017. He asked if I were interested in doing a bible study after posing the question 'what if I told you that Jesus has/will return in our lifetime?' Admittedly I'm not a well studied Christian and although I had told him I did need to do bible study; I was really trying to tell him I didn't need to bible study with him (emphasized). He was so damn nice though I did give my number. I was quite worried he was of the Mormon variety. I ignored his calls for the next week and he eventually let me be. Contacted my sister and her husband, who is a non-denom pastor I respect and they weren't sure but it sounded off. <br /><br />Fast forward a year later to just this last week he calls me again. I didn't recognize the number (didn't save it under his name) and picked it up. I agree to a bible study, partly because I felt guilty about ignoring him the first time. I was actually a little worried because I didn't know these people I actually brought protection just in case and didn't eat the snacks or drink the water till they did...lol. I showed up to a townhome in my area where a supposed member, a girl about my age, 20s/30s lived. <br /><br />The house seemed almost antiseptic, almost like a model home. Continuing this tangent...bear with me...The furniture and interior design seemed neither completely random nor completely feng shui. I checked for signs that someone actually lived there, a pile of mail, keys I saw but otherwise not much. They proceeded to show me a video about the church. The TV was attached the wall, cool and the video was projected via laptop. No other cable box, modem, router, xbox, ps4, etc. Just thought that was strange. The video... lot of Koreans, whatever..lol, and a lot of philanthropy, awards, and giant get togethers of tens of thousands of people. My bible study buddy told me about additional prestigious awards and magazine articles that are supposedly a big deal. Working in marketing myself, I thought to myself how they've done a wonderful job setting up shop to appear legit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-20598853863329959082017-11-20T23:10:38.096-08:002017-11-20T23:10:38.096-08:00Two lovely young ladies from South Korea came to m...Two lovely young ladies from South Korea came to my door yesterday. I live in South Africa. I invited them in as I am a born again believer and I am always ready to speak of my faith. Yes I am not ashamed of the Gospel. When these two young woman started bringing me " another gospel" (Galatians 1:8-9) I realized that I needed to be careful. I asked them to please first pray with me....they would not! What were they scared of! I asked them to say that Jesus was the only way to the Father( John 14:6)they kept on repeating it and adding that Jesus the spirit and the mother is the way. Why could they not just repeat what the Bible said? It is God's Word and Jesus said " no one comes to the Father except through me." I felt such a heaviness from them, no joy or peace. I ignored them and started to pray out loud, they got up, ready to leave while I was praying. They could not sit and listen to someone praying, if they could have, they would have ran out of the front door, but it was locked, we live in a country where we keep doors locked. I hope they learned something about grace and the love, joy and peace that you find only through Jesus Christ while they had to listen to my prayer. I am now praying for them that God will speak to them and save them from this false teachings.<br />Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193895448263146527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-45510807282228186332017-11-07T00:39:14.927-08:002017-11-07T00:39:14.927-08:00I encountered this group today in Sydney and I was...I encountered this group today in Sydney and I was about to attend their church this week but there's something inside me that told me not too, even though they look trustworthy. I did research on this church and I found this blog. I never feel this thankful in my life.Valentina Linhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10167162123896384306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-55651487930393994692017-08-15T07:40:12.104-07:002017-08-15T07:40:12.104-07:00So basically the idea is to self-study the Bible a...So basically the idea is to self-study the Bible and then use the facts given in here and anywhere that against them to fight? If that is the option, I will tryLeeMIBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404356844387193478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-52234387199496871242017-08-15T07:37:04.560-07:002017-08-15T07:37:04.560-07:00Hi all and to genny, I have read all of your comme...Hi all and to genny, I have read all of your comments about this group – WMSCOG. <br />There are some Zions in Hanoi and around Vietnam, for sure. I personally have a sense of CHAOS within the Earth, among nations and the Judgement Day before one of their followers talks to me in the Banking Academy campus.<br />I have been baptized on Friday, 11 of August, 2017. in 9PM to be exact. And after I attended their ceremony (I think it is the Sabbath Rest), I told my mother that I want to buy a Bible to study. However, my mom refused to let me buy that book, and she also told me that, my family worship our ancestors and grandfather/mother, in short, I am a Buddist. I want to leave this group, but they wont let me go and they keep telling me to keep faith in the Heavenly Mother and Father, the Sabbath (like in Tuesday and Saturday) and things about Ahn Sahng-hong and Zhang Gil-Jah. I have known about the name Ahn Sahng-hong just right after the baptism (I haven’t read anything in the Bible yet).<br />Please, Genny, and others who knows the truth about this, please tell me the way to leave this group.LeeMIBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404356844387193478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-50238937691348710612017-07-27T16:03:15.158-07:002017-07-27T16:03:15.158-07:00It's possible to make progress that way, but n...It's possible to make progress that way, but not a tactic I would recommend to most people. The pressure and time commitment would be very high. But I hope it works out well for you. Hope to hear an update from you sometime.gennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-13991279421977265912017-07-24T01:42:09.688-07:002017-07-24T01:42:09.688-07:00I am currently involved in the wmscog to prove to ...I am currently involved in the wmscog to prove to a friend its false I joined and have began learning to teach their sermons all part of the plan to get to the inner teachings of the church I have to say though I don't recommend doing this if your faith is weak the difference with my situation is I knew what it was going in a decided to anyway most don't get that opportunityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-47552230635175707152017-02-03T16:30:20.117-08:002017-02-03T16:30:20.117-08:00Well put Genny....."Community service is admi...Well put Genny....."Community service is admirable, but less so if it is used for self-promotion, which is what the wmscog seems to do."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-19595485241360870212017-01-27T22:09:51.787-08:002017-01-27T22:09:51.787-08:00Yes, that award has issues also, or more specifica...Yes, that award has issues also, or more specifically, the wmscog's use and articles about the award. Have you looked into it on your own? Community service is admirable, but less so if it is used for self-promotion, which is what the wmscog seems to do.gennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-37260050836633607102017-01-27T21:55:36.048-08:002017-01-27T21:55:36.048-08:00Hi Anonymous. Would you please explain what you me...Hi Anonymous. Would you please explain what you mean by that verse? Considering that the wmscog interprets it differently than historical Christian scholars, it would be more helpful to share your thoughts about it.gennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-21601593413671213452017-01-27T21:49:29.921-08:002017-01-27T21:49:29.921-08:00Depending on what's going on at those "bi...Depending on what's going on at those "bible studies, coffee socials, and church" there could be cause to worry. Certainly you can think of situations where that would be true. gennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-61245812779568609102017-01-26T22:19:21.849-08:002017-01-26T22:19:21.849-08:00I assume receiving the MBE award from the Queen of...I assume receiving the MBE award from the Queen of England has issues too?? I applaud this church for practicing their faith and believing in the Bible (crazy thought right?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-79280974067189887472017-01-26T22:11:53.947-08:002017-01-26T22:11:53.947-08:00“The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in...“The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.”<br />Revelation 3:12 NIV<br />http://bible.com/111/rev.3.12.nivAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-21087974550438686052017-01-26T22:09:47.139-08:002017-01-26T22:09:47.139-08:00You're worried because your daughter is going...You're worried because your daughter is going to bible studies, coffee socials, and church??? Sounds like your fighting really tough "demonic forces".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-88819786227250527452016-12-30T03:49:31.882-08:002016-12-30T03:49:31.882-08:00I empatise, but with me, it's my mum who has j...I empatise, but with me, it's my mum who has joined something like this (another religious org). As a daughter there's nothing much I can do about it, every time my dad and I talk to her about this she seems offended like we think that she is incapable to making right decisions. After all, it's... different... but it's not a something illegal or anything. Oh well. She doesn't have any basic idea of religion, she just believes whatever miracles and "truths" she hears and sees on Facebook. sigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-25782447371835048282016-11-27T03:38:02.445-08:002016-11-27T03:38:02.445-08:00Even Satan can quote scripture. Salvation is throu...Even Satan can quote scripture. Salvation is through Jesus alonemjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03077602802488512365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-22835357093017029882016-10-27T08:54:45.621-07:002016-10-27T08:54:45.621-07:00There are issues with some of the awards they tout...There are issues with some of the awards they tout. Quoting Bible verses and being friendly does not indicate that they preach the truth. I hope you will do more of your own research. There is plenty out there to show that they are wrong. gennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071946375996064205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-59524908735141460062016-10-17T00:44:46.263-07:002016-10-17T00:44:46.263-07:00apparently this 'cult' won awards from the...apparently this 'cult' won awards from the Obamas family and royal Queen in buckingham palace too. they are quite a number and phenomenon spread all over the world to be called a cult anymore. also they did quoted bible verses when I asked them questions few weeks ago and it is scary to know God's perspectives. coming from a catholic family i very much believe they hold more truth to what my pastors and family had wanted me to just follow blindly. and it is true there should be new covenant passover and heavenly mother too, not just old covenant passover lamb and solely a fatherly God. they had been quite courteous and sincere, most of them are koreans whom they call each other brothers and sisters? i was not comfortable with baptism because of my family issues but i will definitely go back to study the bible with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-10062740734202555962016-07-13T00:31:02.425-07:002016-07-13T00:31:02.425-07:00I encountered this cult about 2 weeks ago. I had c...I encountered this cult about 2 weeks ago. I had commented to a friend that I was trying to find a Christian church. She invited me to her church. I went the very 1st day they wanted to baptize me. I was skeptical from the minute they were pushing baptism on me. Then they began to talk about how we are Angels that sinned in heaven. Then I really felt something was not right. They kept telling me your flesh is fighting because it doesn't want God. It was not my flesh but the spirit of God showing me to get out. In one of the studies I kept asking questions that they simply had no answers for. Why they didn't have answers because they go based on specific teachings.I could see with my questions I caused confusion in them. They kept these 2 "Gods" hidden. The last day I began to notice pictures of a women all around the church. I asked who is this women? They completely ignored my question.That's when I decided to research and saw where I was. They are deceivers. People who don't have any knowledge of God's spirit are easy prey for them. I thank the Lord for his spirit and wisdom who live in me I was not easy prey for them. I'm recently trying to bring my friend out of there. To all the people on here that have people in this cult. Don't give up. Pray also there are number of sites that help and discredit all these false teachings.They will show how they distort the holy scriptures. In the 2nd coming there will be a rapture and if this man is who they claimed then that would have already happened and it hasn't because he is a false prophet. I am so happy that God she'd his light immediately. I never let them baptize me. It's so sad to see how many people fall into their lies. This was quite the experience. Cc86https://www.blogger.com/profile/11501722507164653465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2397025620170596837.post-83596478473199288892016-07-02T15:26:39.776-07:002016-07-02T15:26:39.776-07:00But doesn't it make sense that children with a...But doesn't it make sense that children with a Father would have a mother too? I can not deny this. It makes so much sense!!! Also, when Jesus came, they said He was a blasphemer and cult leader as well. When Christ comes again, it will be in the same way, with a small group who believes and a larger group who does not. I don't want to be one who cannot believe in God just because of where he was born or because he was a human form just like me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824266403575763052noreply@blogger.com